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Motec Dashlogger ADL2
Motec ADL2 Dashlogger
Motec Dashlogger ADL2
Onboard 8Mb logging
Onboard single Lambda
Onboard 30 I/O
There are a lot of descriptions on the Internet for those Motec Dashlogger devices, and they all are very technical and detailed regarding the Features of those Dashloggers.
Of course those Spec-Sheets are very helpful if you need to compare the Motec Dashes with others, or to compare the Motec Dashlogger among themselves.
But what I found out, working with those Dashloggers for 2 years now: all the descriptions did not really meet the heart of those devices.
I named those Dashloggers Category III Dashes - professional Computers, which are Dashes just " by the way "
To give a rough Idea, what those Computers/Dashes (next to logging anyway ) are able to :
Such Computers do have 30 - 50 fully programmable In -and Outputs , and ( depending on the used ECU ) they're able to have active control of Engine Management , they can calculate TC Settings depending on GPS Signals and/or Suspension Positions or velocities, can do automatically double-declutch via drive by wire or a valve.... or
whatever you have in mind what you'd like to control or adjust.
Those computers work with tables you can configure as you like, Outputs which you can use as voltages or frequency ( PWM or PPM).
If you just need to display a bit rpm here, Laptimes there - then those devices are kinda overkill, as you would only use 0.5% of the whole capability. I'd recommend then to go for a cheap dash as from AIM or others, which are sufficient for that purpose......except you only would like go for a ADL2 or SDL because the
noble looks.
My way of view regarding the Motec Dashes:
Most important for me, those devices are Function-generators:
you need to control a valve, driven by various conditions ? Create a table (2D or 3D) and control the valve
you need to convert a Signal by a Math (i.E. integral, differential..) ? Write your math
you need to let this math control something ? Create an output
you need a complex calculation to control something ? Build more Tables to be one tables output an Input for the next Table
you need your Rider being informed about sensor Errors and all relevant conditions ? Program those Conditions
you don't want to connect your Laptop all the Time to check status quo of Sensors ? Let the ADL display the status quo
you need a POWERFUL Analysis Software of logged Data ? It comes with the ADL/SDL/EDL
you've got a Sensor which has a non-linear output? No Problem, build your own table for that Sensor.
you've got a Sensor putting out Frequency ? No Problem, the Motec Dashloggers will accept them
You've got a Sensor putting out PPM or PWM ? No Problem too.
You've to go for first deviation of a Signal (maybe %/s or mm/s )to control something ? Just build your own math.
And much more............
What you need, what you like, at least I have found no limits. Nothing at present what I can't do with those devices.
But there are differences between SDL - EDL - ADL2.
My short recommendation list what to use for which purpose . A raw overview about the differences :
The SDL has not so many In- and Outputs as the ADL2, but - if you do not intend to build a rolling Lab - they are sufficient for normal Race/Road Bikes
The SDL has one programmable Display, the ADL2 has 3 different programmable Display Modes
The SDL has no math Functions, PID Control and no Timer, but normally you do not need those Functions
The SDL has each two 3D + 2D programmable Tables , ADL2 each 16
The logging Rate max. at the SDL is 200Hz, the ADL2 up to 1000Hz
The maximum Logging Capacity at the SDL 8Mb, ADL2 16Mb
Max Lambda Probes SDL one , ADL2 two
20 programmable Alarmparameters max. at the SDL , max. 40 at the ADL2
The EDL ( enclosed Dashlogger ) is moreless the same as the ADL2. It is just one difference :
The EDL was designed for all those, who already have a working/existing Dash, and like to use the EDL for Logging, Calculations and Controlling
Backlit or not ?
It really depends on the Purpose.
Blue Illumination/Backlit looks nice, I know.
But, the no backlit Versions do have a better contrast, and the Contrast is even higher the brighter the environment is.
My recommendation :
Backlit only, if the Vehicle is partially used at night or very dark conditions.
My preference, as I do only daylight trackdays - the no backlit Version, because the superb contrast.
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€ 3,899.00
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Motec Dashlogger ADL2
Motec ADL2 Dashlogger Backlit
Motec Dashlogger ADL2 with Backlit
There are a lot of descriptions on the Internet for those Motec Dashlogger devices, and they all are very technical and detailed regarding the Features of those Dashloggers.
Of course those Spec-Sheets are very helpful if you need to compare the Motec Dashes with others, or to compare the Motec Dashlogger among themselves.
But what I found out, working with those Dashloggers for 2 years now: all the descriptions did not really meet the heart of those devices.
I named those Dashloggers Category III Dashes - professional Computers, which are Dashes just " by the way "
To give a rough Idea, what those Computers/Dashes (next to logging anyway ) are able to :
Such Computers do have 30 - 50 fully programmable In -and Outputs , and ( depending on the used ECU ) they're able to have active control of Engine Management , they can calculate TC Settings depending on GPS Signals and/or Suspension Positions or velocities, can do automatically double-declutch via drive by wire or a valve.... or
whatever you have in mind what you'd like to control or adjust.
Those computers work with tables you can configure as you like, Outputs which you can use as voltages or frequency ( PWM or PPM).
If you just need to display a bit rpm here, Laptimes there - then those devices are kinda overkill, as you would only use 0.5% of the whole capability. I'd recommend then to go for a cheap dash as from AIM or others, which are sufficient for that purpose......except you only would like go for a ADL2 or SDL because the
noble looks.
My way of view regarding the Motec Dashes:
Most important for me, those devices are Function-generators:
you need to control a valve, driven by various conditions ? Create a table (2D or 3D) and control the valve
you need to convert a Signal by a Math (i.E. integral, differential..) ? Write your math
you need to let this math control something ? Create an output
you need a complex calculation to control something ? Build more Tables to be one tables output an Input for the next Table
you need your Rider being informed about sensor Errors and all relevant conditions ? Program those Conditions
you don't want to connect your Laptop all the Time to check status quo of Sensors ? Let the ADL display the status quo
you need a POWERFUL Analysis Software of logged Data ? It comes with the ADL/SDL/EDL
you've got a Sensor which has a non-linear output? No Problem, build your own table for that Sensor.
you've got a Sensor putting out Frequency ? No Problem, the Motec Dashloggers will accept them
You've got a Sensor putting out PPM or PWM ? No Problem too.
You've to go for first deviation of a Signal (maybe %/s or mm/s )to control something ? Just build your own math.
And much more............
What you need, what you like, at least I have found no limits. Nothing at present what I can't do with those devices.
But there are differences between SDL - EDL - ADL2.
My short recommendation list what to use for which purpose . A raw overview about the differences :
The SDL has not so many In- and Outputs as the ADL2, but - if you do not intend to build a rolling Lab - they are sufficient for normal Race/Road Bikes
The SDL has one programmable Display, the ADL2 has 3 different programmable Display Modes
The SDL has no math Functions, PID Control and no Timer, but normally you do not need those Functions
The SDL has each two 3D + 2D programmable Tables , ADL2 each 16
The logging Rate max. at the SDL is 200Hz, the ADL2 up to 1000Hz
The maximum Logging Capacity at the SDL 8Mb, ADL2 16Mb
Max Lambda Probes SDL one , ADL2 two
20 programmable Alarmparameters max. at the SDL , max. 40 at the ADL2
The EDL ( enclosed Dashlogger ) is moreless the same as the ADL2. It is just one difference :
The EDL was designed for all those, who already have a working/existing Dash, and like to use the EDL for Logging, Calculations and Controlling
Backlit or not ?
It really depends on the Purpose.
Blue Illumination/Backlit looks nice, I know.
But, the no backlit Versions do have a better contrast, and the Contrast is even higher the brighter the environment is.
My recommendation :
Backlit only, if the Vehicle is partially used at night or very dark conditions.
My preference, as I do only daylight trackdays - the no backlit Version, because the superb contrast.
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€ 4,349.00
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€ 5,175.31
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Motec Dashlogger ADL2
Motec ADL2- Enable 16 Mb Logging
Allows logging of ALL ECU Parameters and every Sensor (-Information ) you've mounted with 16 Mb Memory.
- Individual Parameter & Rate Selection
- Logging Rate:(samples per second 1-1000)
Here's a screenshot of looged Data from the Motec Interpreter Software :
Note: Your Motec ADL2 Serial-Number needs to be submitted.
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€ 355.81
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Motec Dashlogger ADL2
Motec ADL2- Enable 50 In/Outputs
Upgrade of the ADL2 from 30I/O to 50 I/O.
What you get :
- + 10 analogue Voltage Inputs
- + 4 analogue Temperature Inputs
- + 2 digital Inputs
- + 4 digital Outputs
For me especially the additional Digital In-and outputs are helpful sometimes, as they can "read" or put out Frequency to analyze or to control devices. But of course everyone has to estimate himself what he needs and what not.
If you already have a ECU Motec ( M400/800... ) , then a some In/Outputs of this Device can be used. If you use the ADL2 as "stand alone" device, then it can happen very soon, that you need more In/Outputs.
For upgrade to 50 I/O I need the serial-# of your ADL2
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Motec Dashlogger ADL2
Motec ADL2- Enable Dual Lambda
Allows the usage of :
- 2 Bosch LSU Lamba Sensor or
- 2 NTK Wide Band Lambda Sensor
Then your able to :
- Log the whole Lambda values with a max. of 1000Hz
A Sample here: the Lambda Values :
Note: Your Motec ADL2 Serial-Number needs to be submitted.
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€ 698.53
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Motec Dashlogger ADL2
Motec ADL2- Enable Pro-Logging
Necessary for professional and helpful for privatier Racers.
This Enable Code allows to use a way more extensional Interpretation of logged Data by the I2 Pro Motec-Software.
Some of the features :
- Advanced Track Mapping Statistics
- Advanced Track Lap Reports
- Real time Math functions ( individually programed )
- Track displaying, GPS or G-Force Sendor required)
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€ 887.00
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€ 1,055.53
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